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Class Codex => Death Knight => Topic started by: Acree on Tue, 2009-04-21 : 16:10

Title: Akree's Dual Wield Talent Build
Post by: Acree on Tue, 2009-04-21 : 16:10
This is the build I have been using on my Death Knight.  Everyone keeps saying that if you want to dual wield, roll a rogue.  I'm hoping that with the right gear, this can still be competitive.  Keep in mind that this is still a work in progress and I appreciate any feedback on this spec.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jZG0jxAbckfzVooZf0bhtcdR0o:abqcVM (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jZG0jxAbckfzVooZf0bhtcdR0o:abqcVM)

Title: Re: Akree's Dual Wield Talent Build
Post by: Dave on Tue, 2009-04-21 : 17:34
If DKs weren't meant to dual wield, they wouldn't have been given the ability.

What rotation do you use? What I know is dual wielders focus on spell-based abilities, since strikes don't do nearly enough damage for 1 handers as they do for 2-handers. Which is why dual wielding is in its nerfed state because howling blast is so far down the tree, that it would be tough to get it, then go far enough down unholy to pick up useful talents.
Title: Re: Akree's Dual Wield Talent Build
Post by: Acree on Tue, 2009-04-21 : 19:09
I'm using Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike x2 (or pestilence + bloodstrike with multiple targets), then Obliterate - followed by runic dump - Which is Frost Strike or Unholy Blight, or Corpse Explosion.  I'll use Death Coil occasionally if at range.  Then its IT, PS, Obliterate x2, runic dump.

As an engineer, I also throw in my Hand Mounted Pyro Rockets, and Saronite Bombs if there is a large cluster of enemies.
Title: Re: Akree's Dual Wield Talent Build
Post by: Acree on Thu, 2009-04-30 : 15:16
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jcZG0fxAbckfzVostf0bht:qskcMV (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jcZG0fxAbckfzVostf0bht:qskcMV)

I changed the build around.  This was sparked initially by the bug to the dk's ghoul.  However, I think I like this better, even though its not quite as fun.  Howling blast provides a better boost to dps because of the amount of aoe pulls in the game.  Also, on boss fights, you can summon a ghoul to increase your dps.

I also made a macro that people might find helpful if they use this build.

/cast Unbreakable Armor
/cast Empower Rune Weapon
/cast Deathchill

If you have a dps boosting trinket, you can add that into the macro as a  (/use *insert name of trinket*)  I am using at current the Sphere of Red Dragon's Blood from Heroic Nexus, so I have added that into my Macro.  The one thing to be careful of is when you use the trinket, it activates a gcd on the engineering handmounted pyro rockets.  So you can't start the encounter with the rockets if you want to get the full effect of the macro when you engage a boss.

So, to get the most mileage out of the macro, you should use Icy Touch and Plague Strike first, to disease your target.  Make sure the diseases take by watching the bosses debuff line and your own rune cooldowns.  Then activate your macro.  You can then use 2x Bloodstrke (again, make sure to watch the cooldowns - because it is important that your blood runes turn to death runes), then you can hit Obliterate twice and runic dump with Frost Strike.  Watch to see if you can get in a free Howling Blast when Rime Procs.  Your second rotation will then be Icy Touch, Plague Strike, and 2x Obliterate followed by another runic power dump of Frost Strike.

I am debating changing the glyph of Plague Strike to the Glyph of Frost Strike.  Looking at my own damage logs, Frost Strike accounts for far more damage than Plague Strike generally, and discounting the runic power cost means that I could use it more often.

As always, this is still a work in progress.

-Mark
Title: Re: Akree's Dual Wield Talent Build
Post by: Vitandus on Thu, 2009-05-21 : 13:27
Please dont write off DW DKs

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Ok i know its an old topic and not anything new, but on behalf of frost dks I just want to throw the plea back into the forums for blizz to see.

Please make dw viable for dks. Not superior, just viable.

Frost is a great candidate, oblit is mediocre at best - make it and frost strike use both weapons.
Make Nerves of Cold Steel a talent that actually makes you want to dw.

I am just dying to use my 2 1h tank weapons, the mitigation is better than stone skin gargoyle and its a fun playstyle. DW dps would be fun again too. Might actually get to mix and match runes on our weaps.

Please dont forget about DW for DK's!!! I know it got nixxed because it was tricky to balance, please put in the effort!!
Erregant

2009-05-20 22:41:50
Re: Please dont write off DW DKs

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Ghostcrawler
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Title: Re: Akree's Dual Wield Talent Build
Post by: Acree on Thu, 2009-05-21 : 14:49
so, a long time in coming.  Oh well.

-Mark