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i was reading thru the EJ all ret pally thread and discovered our optimum hit rating is 8% (260) so that means alot of us are sitting on way to much hit rating. i know i will be changing out every hit gem i have for +str tomorrow as soon as i log and ill be looking for a new weapon with more rwar stats asap.

I am at 307. Everything I have read says hit rating should be 295 for 9% for raid bosses. Now, if it is 8% (262), then I'll drop some more stuff. Do you have a link?

its in the complete ret pally compendium over on the EJ site. dont pay attention to those tards talking about the phantom 3% hit though. anyone whose sitting at 5% is a retard.

p.s. go look at my dk post, hopefully that will make for more competition in the dps charts :)

Apparantly that 8% is random on some Pallies.  It's like hidden extra hit rating from what I've seen.  Only some Pallies have it.

Quote from: wildcard on Sun, 2008-12-28 : 22:51
Apparantly that 8% is random on some Pallies.  It's like hidden extra hit rating from what I've seen.  Only some Pallies have it.

i think youre thinking of the phantom 3% hit bonus. it only appears on pallys who were prot pre 3.0 because there is a talent that gave them 3% more crit and apparently wow still sees them as having it.

I've been reading stuff on other sites as well, and there is some serious debate on the hit issue. I am waffling on this. If it is indeed a lower hit cap, then bummer about passing on the plate leg-guards that dropped tonight.

i think im going to drop down to 260 for tuesday and see how it goes. how far did yall get tonight?

We took down Grobbulus, but Gluth was rough.

I am posting this for Rogues if they are interested. from what i have read and seen on Elitist Jerks the current soft hit cap, which is ur spell cap for poisons, for rogues is 99 hit rating if u have 5/5 in percision. if u want to be hit capped u need something like 700+ hit rating which is right now impossible to get. u cant be hit capped anymore but u should have ur poisons hit capped at all time which is 99 hit rating atm. Anything extra ur just wasting ur atp and crit chance.

We couldnt get gluth down casue we werent specced for it. u MUST have improved blizz to kite the zombies. I have done this before in 40 man naxx.

Getting to hit cap (whatever that may be) just to be hit capped is not the best way to increase your dps.

Strength is our best stat. Period. Never gem for hit. Ever.

Gem for strength (and 2 blue gems if you have a chaotic skyflare diamond in your helm) unless the socket bonus allows you to use another gem and still get 16 strength (e.g. Blue socket filled with Sovereign Gem (+8str/+12stam) on an item with a +8 str socket bonus).

That's not to say that hit is useless (unless you're hit capped), but gearing to be hit capped is counter productive. Until cap, hit is our second best stat.

Every piece of gear you decide on needs to be viewed on the whole. I suggest using an app like RAWR or a mod like PAWN to find you best pieces of gear. If that's not an option for you, go to maxdps.com, import your character from the armory and use it as a guideline for upgrades.

Quote from: Listerfiend on Wed, 2008-12-31 : 13:16
Getting to hit cap (whatever that may be) just to be hit capped is not the best way to increase your dps.

Strength is our best stat. Period. Never gem for hit. Ever.

Gem for strength (and 2 blue gems if you have a chaotic skyflare diamond in your helm) unless the socket bonus allows you to use another gem and still get 16 strength (e.g. Blue socket filled with Sovereign Gem (+8str/+12stam) on an item with a +8 str socket bonus).

That's not to say that hit is useless (unless you're hit capped), but gearing to be hit capped is counter productive. Until cap, hit is our second best stat.

Every piece of gear you decide on needs to be viewed on the whole. I suggest using an app like RAWR or a mod like PAWN to find you best pieces of gear. If that's not an option for you, go to maxdps.com, import your character from the armory and use it as a guideline for upgrades.

until hit capped, hit is our BEST stat. you can have 3094753495837495803748093 str but if you only hit the monster once every 10 swings youre wasting your gear and everyones time :)

Quote from: tulion on Wed, 2008-12-31 : 13:59
until hit capped, hit is our BEST stat. you can have 3094753495837495803748093 str but if you only hit the monster once every 10 swings youre wasting your gear and everyones time :)

That's not the case at all. Strength is always, bar-none, without a doubt, beyond question a ret palladin's best stat, period.

If you're not hit capped, it doesn't mean that you wont hit a boss. It means that 9% (or 8) of the time, you will miss. The other 91% (or 92) of the time you will hit, glance, crit, dodge, parry or block.

If you could take all of your gear and make a copy of it but change all of your hit to the equivilant amount of strength based on item values, such that you had 0 hit rating, your dps would increase, not decrease.

STR
HIT

'nuf said  :lightsaberduel:

What's the final answer on this? 263 (8%) or 296 (9%)?

9%