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Quote from: tulion on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 10:13
mossburg shotguns, easy to load, shoot, nice solid power and you can shoot/load one if you lose an arm.

lever action!  you could just do it Arnie style (T2) and flip em around with one arm still  ;D

IMO if you lose an arm you're probably fucked several ways to begin with.  Regardless of what kind of zombie we're talking about, it seems a common trend that blood attracts them.  No amount of guns or ammo is going to save you. Not even going to mention the effects of blood loss and bacterial infection.  I sure as hell am not going to let someone with a bloody stump hanging from their shoulder into my group.  I'll give you a hand gun and one bullet and let you decide what to do with it.

Quote from: Kotodama on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 15:12
I'll give you a hand gun and one bullet and let you decide what to do with it.

If it's based on how the Left4Dead games go, it's probably because I had to come save your ass when you Rambo'd on ahead. I'd use the bullet to make the world a safer place, but if I already gave up an arm, that would just be silly.

Asian Dave does bring up the same point I did - what kind of zombies? If it's 28 Days Later zombies, and someone just had their arm chewed off, yup, bullet to the head. If it's Left4Dead situation where we're immune, then Dermabond and bandages.

Quote from: Vitandus on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 15:17

Quote from: Kotodama on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 15:12
I'll give you a hand gun and one bullet and let you decide what to do with it.

If it's based on how the Left4Dead games go, it's probably because I had to come save your ass when you Rambo'd on ahead. I'd use the bullet to make the world a safer place, but if I already gave up an arm, that would just be silly.

It's not my fault you're slow old man.  ;D

Quote from: Kotodama on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 15:19
It's not my fault you're slow old man.  ;D

Sprinting into a pack of zombies isn't fast, it's just dumb. Lakecat is slow and hangs back too much and gets jumped. You run off ahead and get swarmed. Rod and I leapfrog and live.

:chainsaw:

(Edit - WoW needs a chainsaw.)

the reason I asked is because the type of zombie they are makes a difference in how much you should burden yourself with unnecessary arms. RE zombies die relatively quickly and they're quite slow, so unless you're in an impenetrable maze of debris that's welded together, your getaway will be quite easy. L4D zombies, while much much faster, are also quite fragile, and head shots or point blank shotgun hits can mow them down as well. But imagine the're Deadspace zombies, where they don't die unless you shoot off each of their limbs, plus one in the head and two more in the torso. You're wasting a good portion of a clip on each guy, so in that case, running may be the better option, as they are moderately quick.

Should we just assume L4D then, since that's where you seem to be basing all of your ideas from.

In that case, I'd burn the city to the ground behind me if I could.

Well I don't want to type a page here, but I think my best plan after reading Max Brook's zombie survival guide and world war Z would be to find a school. Preferably a high school. Take the metal from filing cabinents, use stuff from vocational area to weld or somehow affix these to the windows, make the place secure. A lot of high schools now have barbed wire fencing which helps a little too if you reinforce it. The nurses area has rudimentary medical supplies, the cafeteria has plenty of food. Tear up the gymnasium floor, down to the dirt to use as a garden area if needed. If the roof had skylights, great, if not, have to do something about the ceiling. The busses that would be there could be modified and used as heavy vehicles when we needed to go gather supplies, like of course you'd need weapons and possibly better medical equipment, fuel etc. And go to a rural school like some near where I live. NOT the big cities. For god's sake, stay out of the cities. Gather up other survivors and make a colony out of the school. Classrooms could be used as housing without much trouble and in a last ditch survival tactic if the zombies get through our defenses, we can create escape tunnels by hollowing out walls and using lockers. Climb into the locker, instead of a wall, it's open in the back and there's a tunnel to escape or alternatively hide in.

After the zombies are gone and the government is trying to reassert control comes the fun part. No doubt, colonies will be reluctant and fighting the government in places. So I'd sell myself as a spy to get into other colonies by posing as the "damsel in distress" then I'd gain their trust and either spread the zombie plague in their ranks or help the government open the front doors. I'd be paid well for my services. Get into a higher level of government because of my prowess and position, gain power and rule the lands with an iron fist. I'd shackle the zombies and use them as my own personal biological weapons. Can you imagine it? Thousands of zombies with metal collars on chains, forcing them towards hold out colonies, watching everyone devoured alive for daring to oppose me. Think of the psychological effect! People would simply submit out of fear. I could write about this all day...

If none of this works...well I'll just join the zombies. I'd try to inject myself with their blood. I don't want to be eaten alive. Do it in the north so I wouldn't decay as quickly. Maybe even try like in the monster island series. Hook myself up to a breathing machine while I turn and see if I can retain sentience, if the lack of oxygen is genuinely what kills brain tissue. I'd be a lich! Oh that'd just be swell.

P.S. Oh and Chuck? I'd infiltrate your little hideout and let the zombies in. Don't forget there's people like me out there who would do it for the lulz. Without the internet to entertain me, IRL trolling is all I'd have left.

Soon as you showed up at the front gate all flirty asking to be let in, I would shoot you. Joe will agree with me:

You can't trust the bitches.

I wouldn't be flirty. I'd arrange to have zombies chasing me. If they were government zombies, they'd have no teeth or claws to scratch me. I'd be running towards the compound and it'd either be let me in or watch a fellow human die in cold blood because you wouldn't open the door. Talk tough but when you see someone about to die, even if you personally wouldn't open the gates, someone would. Then that'd be the end of it within a few weeks. Arthas has the right idea. He just needs a better PR department.

Quote from: Vitandus on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 15:24

Quote from: Kotodama on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 15:19
It's not my fault you're slow old man.  ;D

Sprinting into a pack of zombies isn't fast, it's just dumb. Lakecat is slow and hangs back too much and gets jumped. You run off ahead and get swarmed. Rod and I leapfrog and live.

:chainsaw:

(Edit - WoW needs a chainsaw.)

Honestly I'm used to faster moving groups.  Some groups I get into just crawl and get jumped like crazy, I hate it.  Good groups in Vs will move very very fast because they're trying to limit the number of spawns the infected have and also get in front of those that do manage to spawn.  You know you're playing against a good group in Vs if you always find yourself far behind the survivors.

But really, I'm probably going to be very slow in the real deal honestly lol. Alot of cover to cover movement.  I'm in no shape to run. Actually might just grab a dirt bike or a quad or something... who knows.

(WoW DOES need a chainsaw)

Quote from: Erin/Radiant on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 16:10
I wouldn't be flirty. I'd arrange to have zombies chasing me. If they were government zombies, they'd have no teeth or claws to scratch me. I'd be running towards the compound and it'd either be let me in or watch a fellow human die in cold blood because you wouldn't open the door. Talk tough but when you see someone about to die, even if you personally wouldn't open the gates, someone would. Then that'd be the end of it within a few weeks. Arthas has the right idea. He just needs a better PR department.

Erin, he'd watch you die.  And Rod would be behind him laughing.  And Joe would be taking a shot for each time you're bitten.

Well I wouldn't die...I'd just kind of walk away. Toothless zombies aren't going to do a lot to me. And if not you guys...well someone would let me in. On a side note, there's got to be something wrong in my brain to want to help the zombies. My mothering instinct got weird somewhere.

I already told Erin I would shoot her in the head as soon as the first zombie was discovered.  I know the bitch's plan and I am not about to let that shit go down.

Quote from: Kotodama on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 16:13

Quote from: Erin/Radiant on Mon, 2009-07-20 : 16:10
I wouldn't be flirty. I'd arrange to have zombies chasing me. If they were government zombies, they'd have no teeth or claws to scratch me. I'd be running towards the compound and it'd either be let me in or watch a fellow human die in cold blood because you wouldn't open the door. Talk tough but when you see someone about to die, even if you personally wouldn't open the gates, someone would. Then that'd be the end of it within a few weeks. Arthas has the right idea. He just needs a better PR department.

Erin, he'd watch you die.  And Rod would be behind him laughing.  And Joe would be taking a shot for each time you're bitten.

Well, let's be brutally honest here.  Throughout history, societal collapse has never been easy for women, especially single women. (Trust me, I'm a history major). All too often they end up only being valuable because of what they have between their legs.  So, you could run to whatever would be left of the government.  I'd be willing to bet that you'd end up tied to a bed with a collar around your neck and the semen of a number of different men caking dry on your thighs.  Because the first priority of any military group trying to establish order is that they keep their soldiers happy...  and if you aren't a medic, or have any useful survival skills they need... well... you still have a vagina...

If it were my camp or fortification, I wouldn't let you in.  A single woman un-armed who has somehow survived  all alone?? Yeah, I'd smell a rat and shoot you first.  Anybody who tried to let you in would probably either be shot immediately or tossed over the fence to the zombies...  Survival is a nasty business.

...I'd be armed. I'm a pretty good shot. I have some medical training. CPR, AED heimlich and first aid certified. It'd be okay to let me in. I wouldn't do that to you guys. I'd help us survive like Dr. Quinn on the frontier. I mean I'd do that to OTHER compounds sure, and after it was safe to leave, we'd see.